Re: #Scummy right wing pseudo-journalists compare Obama to Hitler
Reply to: Steve
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:06:22 -0500
Organization: Norris
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 05:52:06 -0800, 4802 Dead
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch
"The Beer Hall Putsch (also known as the Munich Putsch[1]) was a
failed coup d'état attempt that occurred between the evening of
Thursday, November 8 and the early afternoon of Friday, November 9,
1923, when the Nazi party's leader Adolf Hitler, the popular World War
I General Erich Ludendorff, and other leaders of the Kampfbund,
unsuccessfully tried to gain power in Munich."
That's one of many putsches. I bet you thought it was the only one.
David B. Jamieson (Zepp) has probably researched putsches.. He does
that instead of voting.. which he is permanently banned from
doing...
I think Steve is imagining things again.
Steve, care to list these putsches Zepp has done? Locations and times?
Or shall we usenet readers just chalk it up to your imagination again?
Steve posts no list. Guess we need to chalk it up to his imagination.
I suspect your conception of prement is also flawed, because while
there are some bars to voting. most of them can be overcome.
Race once could be a bar, but the 15th Mmendment changed that among others.
Gender once could be a bar, but the 18th Amendment changed that.
Not being solvent used to be a bar, but the 24th Amendment changed that.
Not being 21 years of age used to be that but the 26th Amednment
changed that to 18. The simple course of aging removes that
bar naturally
Its possible that past criminal activity could be a bar, but that still
leaves open the possibility of pardons.
An alien who requests and is exempt under an agreement or
bilateral treaty can never become a U.S. citizen, and may
have trouble reentering the U.S. if he leaves.
http://www.sss.gov/fsaliens.htm
Lack of citizenship can be a bar, but people can be naturalized,
a legal process. And if some law is a bar to that process, it still
cannot be considered permanen, because laws can be, and have been,
changed.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001426----000-.htm
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TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part II > § 1426
Citizenship denied alien relieved of service in Armed Forces because
of alienage
(a) Permanent ineligibility
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 405 (b) [1] but subject to
subsection (c) of this section, any alien who applies or has applied
for exemption or discharge from training or service in the Armed
Forces
lieved or discharged from such training or service on such ground,
shall be permanently ineligible to become a citizen of the United
States.
Ah, now all you have to do is prove real permanence is that
somehow 8 USC 1426 can never be altered or repealed, or nullified
by another law.
Good luck.
Heck, John McCain probably would not be a citizen if it was
not for laws, because the location of his birth was not in the US.
His parents were citizens, you moron, so he'd have been a citizen if
he'd been born on Mars...
Gee, I wonder why we need a _LAW_ like 8 USC 1401 (c) then, _MORON_.
No one is a citizen if not for laws, Dummy... even the Constitution
is law. So what's your point?
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1401
The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United
[...]
(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying
possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United
States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States
or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such
person;
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html
And of more relevance to the case of McCain, why did Congress enact
the law now refered to as 8 USC 1403, in 1937 (after McCain was born)?
TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part I > § 1403
§ 1403. Persons born in the Canal Zone or Republic of Panama on
or after February 26, 1904
(a) Any person born in the Canal Zone on or after February 26, 1904,
and whether before or after the effective date of this chapter,
whose father or mother or both at the time of the birth of such
person was or is a citizen of the United States, is declared to be
a citizen of the United States.
(b) Any person born in the Republic of Panama on or after
February 26, 1904, and whether before or after the effective date
of this chapter, whose father or mother or both at the time of
the birth of such person was or is a citizen of the United
States employed by the Government of the United States or by the
Panama Railroad Company, or its successor in title, is declared
to be a citizen of the United States.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1403.html
LAWS, moron, LAWS. What part about LAWS don't you get?
When it comes down to the end, since the Constitution can be changed,
anything capible indicating a decision/opinion theortically could
become eligible to vote. So how can Steve imagine anyone could be
permanently banned? Even in some cases where people are insensate,
such as coma or retardation, a medical cure could happen.
Lets see... it can't be because Zepp cannot communicate an opinion,
because he does that often, here if not elsewhere...
I guess the major choices for a pemanent ban left are things
like being non-human or dead.
Actually Zepp's ban on voting is quite permanent enough for me... Let
me know when it changes... OK?
I wonder if Steve is now imagining Zepp is a zombie, vampire or
something. Not too far from the gay werewolf fantasies he used to
imagine.
actually, it was his wife's gay werewolf fantasies. Wonder what he
did to make hew leave him... Hope he didn't hit her... but then,
bloody, obese carcass strewn all over McCloud if he had.
Come on Steve, Where is your list of Zepp's alleged putsches?
where is your proof of a permanent ban on voting? Could you
look more like a fool if he did legally cast a vote?