Discussion:
#Now Hussein Shifts "Rich" Down To $200,000
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4802 Dead
2008-10-31 02:35:21 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
--------------------------------
"Obama is no reformer. He is no progressive. He's a phoney."
---------- Milton Brewster, 6/08
"With smooth, likeable baby-faced fools like Barack fighting for us, we
are all doomed."
--------------------------- Milton Brewster, 10/16/08
--

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
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Phlip
2008-10-31 01:37:48 UTC
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Responding to the Subject line:

When I heard that number last night I thought "yep. Another round of
wing-nuts whining on the 'net because they secretly wished they could make
the cut, and they _still_ can't!"

Don't worry guys. You can have higher taxes the next time a GOP president
comes to town.

But just think - the Obama Prosperity _might_ let you achieve it, much much
sooner!
Mitchell Holman
2008-10-31 01:57:15 UTC
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Post by Phlip
When I heard that number last night I thought "yep. Another round of
wing-nuts whining on the 'net because they secretly wished they could
make the cut, and they _still_ can't!"
Don't worry guys. You can have higher taxes the next time a GOP
president comes to town.
But just think - the Obama Prosperity _might_ let you achieve it, much
much sooner!
Republicans aren't afraid that Obama will
win and fail as president.

They are afraid he will win and SUCCEED.
Phlip
2008-10-31 02:03:23 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Republicans aren't afraid that Obama will
win and fail as president.
They are afraid he will win and SUCCEED.
Point. Kennedy, Carter, & Clinton were all wet dishrags who constantly gave
in to right-wing demands. The audacity of Obama's plan is it's more than
anyone has promised, and more than anyone has actually tried.

And, in the current pitiful state of the USA, any direction is up!
Mitchell Holman
2008-10-31 02:12:30 UTC
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Post by Phlip
Post by Mitchell Holman
Republicans aren't afraid that Obama will
win and fail as president.
They are afraid he will win and SUCCEED.
Point. Kennedy, Carter, & Clinton were all wet dishrags who constantly
gave in to right-wing demands. The audacity of Obama's plan is it's more
than anyone has promised, and more than anyone has actually tried.
And, in the current pitiful state of the USA, any direction is up!
The biggest mystery isn't why Bush's approval rating is
in the cellar, it is that he has one at all.
Phlip
2008-10-31 02:54:51 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
The biggest mystery isn't why Bush's approval rating is
in the cellar, it is that he has one at all.
Haven't major GOP budget cuts targeted education and mental health?
4802 Dead
2008-10-31 03:47:25 UTC
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Post by Phlip
Post by Mitchell Holman
The biggest mystery isn't why Bush's approval rating is
in the cellar, it is that he has one at all.
Haven't major GOP budget cuts targeted education and mental health?
Yup, and they breed lots of inbred morons in the red states, too.
--

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
Gary DeWaay
2008-10-31 05:06:55 UTC
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Post by 4802 Dead
Post by Phlip
Haven't major GOP budget cuts targeted education and mental health?
Yup, and they breed lots of inbred morons in the red states, too.
True red story story... I was working on a house in a kind
of crappy neighborhood today and some redneck pulls into the
driveway next door in a beat up old mini-van with "Obama =
traitor" written in soap on the window. Out walks some
gumbah beer-gutted shabby clothed dude... lets out his big
ol' red neck dogs, and starts yelling at his red neck kids.
After a bit he leans his big ol' beer gut on the hood of his
anti-Obama van and proceeds to watch me work for the next 15
minutes... as if he hadn't seen anyone do that before.

Only in America.
4802 Dead
2008-10-31 05:25:14 UTC
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 00:06:55 -0500, Gary DeWaay
Post by Gary DeWaay
Post by 4802 Dead
Post by Phlip
Haven't major GOP budget cuts targeted education and mental health?
Yup, and they breed lots of inbred morons in the red states, too.
True red story story... I was working on a house in a kind
of crappy neighborhood today and some redneck pulls into the
driveway next door in a beat up old mini-van with "Obama =
traitor" written in soap on the window. Out walks some
gumbah beer-gutted shabby clothed dude... lets out his big
ol' red neck dogs, and starts yelling at his red neck kids.
After a bit he leans his big ol' beer gut on the hood of his
anti-Obama van and proceeds to watch me work for the next 15
minutes... as if he hadn't seen anyone do that before.
Only in America.
Sounds like you just met Knickers.
--

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-31 10:18:13 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Phlip
When I heard that number last night I thought "yep. Another round of
wing-nuts whining on the 'net because they secretly wished they could
make the cut, and they _still_ can't!"
Don't worry guys. You can have higher taxes the next time a GOP
president comes to town.
But just think - the Obama Prosperity _might_ let you achieve it, much
much sooner!
Republicans aren't afraid that Obama will
win and fail as president.
They are afraid he will win and SUCCEED.
What would constitute "success" for Hussein, Hollowman?

You being able to use a tax rebate to trade up for a new mobile home?

Hahaha.
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-31 10:16:21 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, zepp22114802
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by 4802 Dead
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
And one of those decisions was to admit you're not a citizen
after years of claiming to have the vote here on Usenet.

Hahaha.

We had, and continue to have, a real laugh about THAT decision.

-----------------------------------------------
"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996

"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--"Zepp" Jamieson,2000/02/15

"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996

"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 2000/04/25
Steve
2008-10-31 10:45:43 UTC
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:16:21 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by 4802 Dead
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
And one of those decisions was to admit you're not a citizen
after years of claiming to have the vote here on Usenet.
Hahaha.
We had, and continue to have, a real laugh about THAT decision.
-----------------------------------------------
"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--"Zepp" Jamieson,2000/02/15
"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 2000/04/25
That was real funny.. but my favorite admission from Zeppy was the
tacit admission that he's never seen any 1040 for other than the "EZ"
version which is the only one that you can't report cap gains on..


If Nevermore tries paying cap gains with a 1040, he'll
be in jail soon enough.
--Zepp Jamieson, Dec 3, 2005
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/30fdaff423e2029b?hl=en&


"And why are dividends on 401Ks considered capital gains? (They
are,when it comes time to cash the 401K in, but Steve wouldn't know
that)."
--David (Zepp) Jamieson Tue, 29 Jul 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.society.liberalism/msg/25d56714cbea3db9?hl=en
4802 Dead
2008-10-31 15:04:01 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:16:21 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by 4802 Dead
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
And one of those decisions was to admit you're not a citizen
after years of claiming to have the vote here on Usenet.
Hahaha.
We had, and continue to have, a real laugh about THAT decision.
Poor Knickers. You know, you never HAVE explained how you might be an
inspiring example to anyone contemplating becoming an American. What
can you tell us that would make anyone want to be like you?

Oh, and by the way, Knickers...

Have a happy election.


Ha ha ha.
-----------------------------------------------
"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--"Zepp" Jamieson,2000/02/15
"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 2000/04/25
--

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
For the finest in liberal/leftist commentary,
http://www.zeppscommentaries.com
For news feed (free, 10-20 articles a day)
Zepps_News-***@yahoogroups.com
For essays (donations accepted, 2 articles/week)
Zepps_essays-***@yahoogroups.com
a.a. #2211 -- Bryan Zepp Jamieson
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-31 15:09:14 UTC
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In article <***@4ax.com>, zepp22114802
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by Steve
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:16:21 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by 4802 Dead
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
And one of those decisions was to admit you're not a citizen
after years of claiming to have the vote here on Usenet.
Hahaha.
We had, and continue to have, a real laugh about THAT decision.
Poor Knickers. You know, you never HAVE explained how you might be an
inspiring example to anyone contemplating becoming an American. What
can you tell us that would make anyone want to be like you?
To quote my post from Sept 29:

"I pay my taxes and my mortgage. I work and support my family. I've
served 7 years in the military, all of them after age 30. I vote and I
get to laugh at poor saps and losers like you on the outside looking
in."
Post by Steve
Oh, and by the way, Knickers...
Have a happy election.
As always it's happy to the extent that, as always, you will NOT
be participating.
Post by Steve
Ha ha ha.
Indeed.

-----

Your election "prediction"...when will it be?
Post by Steve
-----------------------------------------------
"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--"Zepp" Jamieson,2000/02/15
"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 2000/04/25
--
Steve
2008-10-31 17:17:32 UTC
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On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:04:01 -0800, 4802 Dead
Post by Steve
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 06:16:21 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
Post by 4802 Dead
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:55:40 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
@finestplanet.com says...
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:25:03 -0400, Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:42:38 -0500, Mitchell Holman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:10:07 -0500, Mitchell Holman
What are you asking? Obama says he won't raise taxes on anyone
making $250,000 or less. How do you raise revenues doing that?
How about taxing the corporations making billions and
paying NO TAXES AT ALL?
Congratulations. You just taxed everybody as corporations don't pay
taxes - they pass them on to their customers.
So you want to exempt corporations from all
taxes and pay their share for them.
How very noble of you.
Consumers already pay pretty much all of the corporations' taxes...
And you think consumers should pay ALL the corporations taxes.
They already do.. Any company that sells products that end up being
bought by consumers merely collects the tax money from those
consumers..
Why do you hate the consumers?
Why are you such a moron?
Hollowman is anti-consumer and pro-government. Like Bill Clinton,
he thinks all money belongs to the government except for what the
bureaucrats condescend to allow them to keep.
You and your child molester buddy can sptend election night sobbing to
each other. Maybe he'll offer to comfort you. Have fun.
In any case, I will "sptend"(sic) election night having voted earlier in
the day.
Something you won't be doing, right?
Wheeeeeeeuuuuw, do you *hate* that I can say that!!
Not in the least. Unlike you, I understand my decisions have
consequences.
And one of those decisions was to admit you're not a citizen
after years of claiming to have the vote here on Usenet.
Hahaha.
We had, and continue to have, a real laugh about THAT decision.
Poor Knickers. You know, you never HAVE explained how you might be an
inspiring example to anyone contemplating becoming an American. What
can you tell us that would make anyone want to be like you?
Simple... just make the alternative being someone like Fatty
Zepp....
Post by Steve
Oh, and by the way, Knickers...
Have a happy election.
Oh, and by the way, Jamieson..
Have a happy unemployment....
Post by Steve
Ha ha ha.
-----------------------------------------------
"I have the right to vote against him in the next
election."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"I will throw my vote away on a 3rd party candidate."
--"Zepp" Jamieson,2000/02/15
"I can just as easily vote once now--in my local Congressional race"
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 1996
"You just doubled the value of my vote."
--"Zepp" Jamieson, 2000/04/25
Pride is the recognition of the fact that you are your own
highest value and, like all of man’s values, it has to be
earned.
_Ayn Rand "ATLAS SHRUGGED"

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