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Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-14 11:11:07 UTC
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Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008

To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.

Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim
is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared
witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!

If the truth becomes better known -- and it will if the Ayers issue is
doggedly pursued -- it will be clear that Obama was not only deeply
immersed the fetid swamp of Chicago’s far-left political scene, but
was from the very beginning of his career carefully groomed by the
city’s socialist left to follow the path he’s on now in his quest for
the presidency of the United States.

Giving credence to the charge that Obama was “groomed by an older
generation of radical leftists for insertion into the American
political process, trading on good looks, brains, educational
pedigree, and the desire of the vast majority of the voting public to
right the historical racial wrongs of the [past]” as the American
Thinkers’ Thomas Lifson has written:

Obama benefited from association with the socialist New Party,
described by Lifson as “a radical left organization, established in
1992, to amalgamate far-left groups and push the United States into
socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left.” A March 22,
1998 article by John Nichols in These Times revealed, “After six
years, the party has built what is arguably the most sophisticated
left-leaning political operation the country has seen since the
decline of the Farmer-Labor, Progressive and Non-Partisan League
groupings of the early part of the century.”
Obama has been allied with ACORN and their Project Vote, the radical
leftist group now charged with massive vote fraud aimed at electing
Barack Obama president of the United States. Obama has long been
directly involved with ACORN. An article by Toni Foulkes of ACORN,
“Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign,” which appeared in
Social Policy magazine in 2004, Foulkes revealed ACORN noticed Obama
when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the
Developing Communities Project. Wrote Foulks: “He was a very good
organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us
with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by
the National Voting Rights Act … Obama took the case, known as ACORN
vs. Edgar … and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration
project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol
Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered
50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about
5000 of them). Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership
training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a
result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he
ever ran for office.”
Obama and Bill Ayers were close associates for years, going back as
far as 1995 if not earlier. According to CNN: “A review of board
minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with
Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project. The
Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match
local private funds to improve schools… Obama was asked to serve as
the board chairman in 1995… For seven years, Ayers and Obama -- among
many others -- worked on funding for education projects, including
some projects advocated by Ayers ... The board, for example, gave
hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Ayers' small schools project…
The funding, according to records… CNN reviewed, came directly from
the Annenberg foundation which Obama chaired. While working on the
Annenberg project, Obama and Ayers also served together on a second
charitable foundation, the Woods Fund.”

No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-
limits.
Lubow
2008-10-14 12:38:11 UTC
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Let's get down to reality. Ayers matters because McCain is down 10% in the
national tracking poll and down by 176 EVs according to www.electoral-vote.com

McCain has nothing positive to tell the American people. What can McCain tell
us other than his administration will draw from the same bum-of-the-month club
from which Bush selected his political appointees. McCain tells us that his
"experience" would be of benefit to the USA. But how did all this experience
come into play when he made his first appointment, that of Gov. Palin?

So, yeah, if I were a GOP office holder looking to get re-elected I would want
some diversionary bullshit to matter.
Kenny McCormack
2008-10-14 12:56:42 UTC
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Post by Lubow
Let's get down to reality. Ayers matters because McCain is down 10% in the
national tracking poll and down by 176 EVs according to www.electoral-vote.com
Yes, and the media (still) wants this to be a horse-race. So, they (the
media) will play whatever they can to keep it close.

As I've said before, this race should be over (relegated to page 32 of,
well you know, my favorite paper in my youth). And it would be (over
and done with), except for two possibilities:

1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud.
(And don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is
the master of voter fraud). A lot of people think even they
couldn't pull it off at this late stage (with the polls so
lopsided), but you can never quite count them out.

2) Another 9/11 style event, possibly just days before the
election, which could cause the election to be cancelled.
A veritable coup d'etat.
Firelock
2008-10-14 20:36:42 UTC
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Let's get down to reality.  Ayers matters because McCain is down 10% in the
national tracking poll and down by 176 EVs according towww.electoral-vote.com
Yes, and the media (still) wants this to be a horse-race.  So, they (the
media) will play whatever they can to keep it close.
As I've said before, this race should be over (relegated to page 32 of,
well you know, my favorite paper in my youth).
If your opponents gave up and went home, maybe. They're
not about to.
 And it would be (over
        1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud.
            (And don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is
            the master of voter fraud).
Would that be the side with the ACORNS in it? ;-)

--
Walt
Lubow
2008-10-15 05:34:42 UTC
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Post by Firelock
Post by Kenny McCormack
1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud.
(And don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is
the master of voter fraud).
Would that be the side with the ACORNS in it? ;-)
No. More likely another storming of the Dade County board of elections by goons
hired by the GOP.
Kenny McCormack
2008-10-15 13:39:38 UTC
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Post by Lubow
Post by Firelock
Post by Kenny McCormack
1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud.
(And don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is
the master of voter fraud).
Would that be the side with the ACORNS in it? ;-)
No. More likely another storming of the Dade County board of elections
by goons hired by the GOP.
Somehow, the moron could not heed the admonition to abstain from
cuteness. Oh well, he's a Republican; you can only hope for so much.

P.S. According to recent reports, McSame has as much association with
ACORN as does Obama.
Firelock
2008-10-15 15:06:07 UTC
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Post by Kenny McCormack
Post by Kenny McCormack
1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud.
(And don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is
the master of voter fraud).
Would that be the side with the ACORNS in it?  ;-)
No.  More likely another storming of the Dade County board of elections
by goons hired by the GOP.
Somehow, the moron could not heed the admonition to abstain from
cuteness.
That's because your "admonitions" are worthless noise
to me, Kenny. McCain *was* associated with ACORN
as a guy who liked what they said they were trying to
do, he's disavowed them as they more and more show
their true colors. Has your hero done the same?

--
Walt
Phlip
2008-10-16 03:57:20 UTC
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Post by Firelock
1) Massive (and I do mean, Massive, with a capital M) voter fraud. (And
don't get cute, you know perfectly well which side is the master of
voter fraud).
Would that be the side with the ACORNS in it? ;-)
Or the side that _still_ has Karl Rove pulling all the strings..?
Wayne
2008-10-14 16:35:24 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.

The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Jack
2008-10-14 16:38:58 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that the
McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers
is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES
NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
Wayne
2008-10-14 20:02:24 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that the
McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers
is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES
NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
I understand that. But, there appears to be no limit to what the obamaniacs
will ignore.
Jack
2008-10-14 20:06:19 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Jack
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill
Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES
NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
I understand that. But, there appears to be no limit to
what the obamaniacs will ignore.
Do you think that anyone, in pursuit of the most powerful position in the
free world, does anything to handicap himself. They lie. Ok? They do
whatever they have to do including kill. Only the naive complain about it.
Firelock
2008-10-14 20:41:50 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by Jack
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill
Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES
NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism.  There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
I understand that.  But, there appears to be no limit to
what the obamaniacs will ignore.
Do you think that anyone, in pursuit of the most powerful position in the
free world, does anything to handicap himself.  They lie.  Ok?  They do
whatever they have to do including kill.  Only the naive complain about it.
Saw a strange bit on CNN this morning. A woman was
saying that some people from her neighborhood were
getting shot because they were supporting the wrong
candidate - they were seen as traitors to their people
because the candidate they supported was the wrong
color. She was scared to be public about who she
supported, because she thought these brave
defenders of racial pride would kill her as well,
execute her for the crime of supporting a
candidate who didn't have her color skin.

She was black.

--
Walt
Jack
2008-10-14 20:52:54 UTC
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Post by Firelock
Post by Jack
Post by Jack
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their
candidate's association with unrepentant terrorist
bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men
into one where they worked together in promoting
Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers
DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
I understand that. But, there appears to be no limit to
what the obamaniacs will ignore.
Do you think that anyone, in pursuit of the most
powerful position in the free world, does anything to
handicap himself. They lie. Ok? They do whatever they
have to do including kill. Only the naive complain about
it.
Saw a strange bit on CNN this morning. A woman was
saying that some people from her neighborhood were
getting shot because they were supporting the wrong
candidate - they were seen as traitors to their people
because the candidate they supported was the wrong
color. She was scared to be public about who she
supported, because she thought these brave
defenders of racial pride would kill her as well,
execute her for the crime of supporting a
candidate who didn't have her color skin.
She was black.
The people from her neighborhood had nothing to gain from these murders so
it's hard to understand why they would do that.
Firelock
2008-10-15 15:03:45 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by Jack
Post by Jack
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their
candidate's association with unrepentant terrorist
bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men
into one where they worked together in promoting
Ayers' far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers
DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
Imagine, wanting to win.
I understand that. But, there appears to be no limit to
what the obamaniacs will ignore.
Do you think that anyone, in pursuit of the most
powerful position in the free world, does anything to
handicap himself. They lie. Ok? They do whatever they
have to do including kill. Only the naive complain about
it.
Saw a strange bit on CNN this morning.  A woman was
saying that some people from her neighborhood were
getting shot because they were supporting the wrong
candidate - they were seen as traitors to their people
because the candidate they supported was the wrong
color.  She was scared to be public about who she
supported, because she thought these brave
defenders of racial pride would kill her as well,
execute her for the crime of supporting a
candidate who didn't have her color skin.
She was black.
The people from her neighborhood had nothing to gain from these murders so
it's hard to understand why they would do that.
It was only about ten seconds of airplay, hard to
tell what was going on. If it was as she said,
then it was simple political terrorism - scare the
McCain supporters in the black community
into silence. It won't stop them from voting,
secret ballot and all, but it stops them from
presenting their case to other voters before
the election, allows the Obama supporters
to preserve the image of black solidarity
behind their candidate.

I haven't seen the woman's allegations
repeated beyond those ten seconds of
airplay. There might be nothing to it,
or it might be something the media
doesn't want to pursue.

--
Walt
Lubow
2008-10-14 17:16:47 UTC
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Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse. Prioritization of
issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone who places the Ayers
thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority level as a global economic
crisis is not fit for the presidency.
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the White
House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of several
banks like a European socialist country would do.

That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Wayne
2008-10-14 20:06:11 UTC
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Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Lubow
2008-10-14 22:09:17 UTC
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so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed it up so bad
that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two years.
Ya know, Wayne, I just knew you were capable of telling the truth at least once
in your life.
Balanced View
2008-10-14 22:39:30 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
No, they couldn't, their one seat majority is not enough get anything
past, and the republicans have broken
every record for filibustering.
Phlip
2008-10-16 03:53:45 UTC
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Post by Wayne
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Yeah, and his own campaign has certainly never had any crises at all,
either! So we have not yet seen how he would possibly react to them!!
4787 Dead
2008-10-14 23:09:20 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Nope. They need a clear majority in the Senate and a cooperative White
House.

And it will take years nonetheless.
Wayne
2008-10-14 23:31:52 UTC
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Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Nope. They need a clear majority in the Senate and a cooperative White
House.
And it will take years nonetheless.
Nonetheless, both parties were responsible over a number of years for the
current mess. The dems had a major role, and unfortunately Bush went along
with it.
4787 Dead
2008-10-15 01:14:18 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Nope. They need a clear majority in the Senate and a cooperative White
House.
And it will take years nonetheless.
Nonetheless, both parties were responsible over a number of years for the
current mess. The dems had a major role, and unfortunately Bush went along
with it.
Yeah, right, those nasty Democrats controlled the House and Senate
from 2001 to 2007 and wouldn't let poor little George do ANYTHING!

Is that what you're trying to tell us here, cupcakes?

Man, you right wingers must think Americans are complete fucking
morons to believe the horseshit you spew.
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Lubow
2008-10-15 13:36:49 UTC
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Post by 4787 Dead
Yeah, right, those nasty Democrats controlled the House and Senate
from 2001 to 2007 and wouldn't let poor little George do ANYTHING!
Is that what you're trying to tell us here, cupcakes?
Man, you right wingers must think Americans are complete fucking
morons to believe the horseshit you spew.
Even if the GOP controlled all 535 seats in Congress, they would STILL blame
the Democrats. Like I say, there are two things in which the GOP is an expert:

(1) Turning a minor economic hiccup into a full scale disaster like the GOP did
in 1873, 1903, 1929 and the present time.

(2) Blaming everyone else for the GOP fuckups. Thus far, their usual suspects
have been:

Ted Kennedy's driving
Jimmy Carter
Monica Lewinsky
Obama's preacher man
Barney Frank's lifestyle
Barney the Dinosaur
Barney Rubble
Barney Google
Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Nope. They need a clear majority in the Senate and a cooperative White
House.
And it will take years nonetheless.
Nonetheless, both parties were responsible over a number of years for the
current mess. The dems had a major role, and unfortunately Bush went along
with it.
--
Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
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4787 Dead
2008-10-15 13:51:19 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:36:49 -0400, "Lubow"
Post by Lubow
Post by 4787 Dead
Yeah, right, those nasty Democrats controlled the House and Senate
from 2001 to 2007 and wouldn't let poor little George do ANYTHING!
Is that what you're trying to tell us here, cupcakes?
Man, you right wingers must think Americans are complete fucking
morons to believe the horseshit you spew.
Even if the GOP controlled all 535 seats in Congress, they would STILL blame
(1) Turning a minor economic hiccup into a full scale disaster like the GOP did
in 1873, 1903, 1929 and the present time.
(2) Blaming everyone else for the GOP fuckups. Thus far, their usual suspects
Ted Kennedy's driving
Jimmy Carter
Monica Lewinsky
Obama's preacher man
Barney Frank's lifestyle
Barney the Dinosaur
Barney Rubble
Barney Google
Don't forget humma-sexuals!
Post by Lubow
Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by 4787 Dead
Post by Wayne
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
It does not matter because the economy is about to collapse.
Prioritization of issues is a quality a president needs to have. Anyone
who places the Ayers thing, whatever that "thing" is, on the same priority
level as a global economic crisis is not fit for the presidency.
The problem is that Obama has unanswered questions that relate to his
ability to solve ANY crisis.
Post by Lubow
Post by Wayne
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is
an opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that
would dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
Socialism? Nutjobs? Sorry, Wayne but your conservative nutjobs in the
White House have already taken the US into socialism by buying control of
several banks like a European socialist country would do.
That leaves very little for McCain. Thanks for playing.
Heh, heh.....so the dems didn't play any role in that? Guess Bush screwed
it up so bad that the dems couldn't get it straightened out in the past two
years.
Nope. They need a clear majority in the Senate and a cooperative White
House.
And it will take years nonetheless.
Nonetheless, both parties were responsible over a number of years for the
current mess. The dems had a major role, and unfortunately Bush went along
with it.
--
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Kenny McCormack
2008-10-14 17:26:36 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
I've got news for ya! The US is already socialist, thanks to your guy GWB.

Our guy may just be successful in reducing the rate of acceleration of
the digging.
Leo Marx
2008-10-14 18:11:32 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
This kind of wrong headed thinking, calling anyone you disagree with, a
terrorist, socialist, muslim, is the problem.

Fascism - Communism

Capitalism - Socialism

Evil exists at the extremes of the political and economic philosophies.

The truth is somewhere in the middle.

To agree to disagree, to compromise, is the American way

JAM
j***@gmail.com
2008-10-14 18:19:28 UTC
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Post by Leo Marx
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism.  There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
This kind of wrong headed thinking, calling anyone you disagree with, a
terrorist, socialist, muslim, is the problem.
Fascism - Communism
Capitalism - Socialism
Evil exists at the extremes of the political and economic philosophies.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
To agree to disagree, to compromise, is the American way
WIth a president who says things like "you're either with us or
against us", I'm afraid "the American way" is going every day more the
the extreme right.
Just checking the kind of persons who attend McCain meetings and who
yell "kill him" when refering to Obama is enough to realize that this
country is quite fucked up.
Jack
2008-10-14 18:24:31 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by Leo Marx
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that
the McCain campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill
Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES
NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their
candidate, and there is an opportunity to drive the US
into socialism. There isn't a fact that would dissuade
them from the victory they see ahead.
This kind of wrong headed thinking, calling anyone you
disagree with, a terrorist, socialist, muslim, is the
problem.
Fascism - Communism
Capitalism - Socialism
Evil exists at the extremes of the political and
economic philosophies.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
To agree to disagree, to compromise, is the American way
WIth a president who says things like "you're either with
us or against us", I'm afraid "the American way" is going
every day more the the extreme right.
Just checking the kind of persons who attend McCain
meetings and who yell "kill him" when refering to Obama
is enough to realize that this country is quite fucked up.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with all these problems.
Leo Marx
2008-10-14 19:17:37 UTC
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Post by j***@gmail.com
Post by Leo Marx
Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
This kind of wrong headed thinking, calling anyone you disagree with, a
terrorist, socialist, muslim, is the problem.
Fascism - Communism
Capitalism - Socialism
Evil exists at the extremes of the political and economic philosophies.
The truth is somewhere in the middle.
To agree to disagree, to compromise, is the American way
WIth a president who says things like "you're either with us or
against us", I'm afraid "the American way" is going every day more the
the extreme right.
Just checking the kind of persons who attend McCain meetings and who
yell "kill him" when refering to Obama is enough to realize that this
country is quite fucked up.
Have you seen the videos of people in line for the McCaim / Palin
rallies?

These videos are the best arguments for greater funding for our public
schools. The ignorance of the general public is astounding!

JAM
L. Raymond
2008-10-14 19:56:44 UTC
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Post by Leo Marx
Have you seen the videos of people in line for the McCaim / Palin
rallies?
I've seen my neighborhood, where there are currently five McCain/Palin
signs up between me and the nearest main street, while the only Obama
sign, now gone, had been defaced with spray paint. I suspect a number
of Obama signs have been put up only to disappear the same night.
--
L. Raymond
Balanced View
2008-10-14 22:36:36 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
-
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The left wing nutjobs have finally gotten their candidate, and there is an
opportunity to drive the US into socialism. There isn't a fact that would
dissuade them from the victory they see ahead.
LOL, your republican government has been manipulating the free market
and buying bank stocks,
and you call the democrats socialist?
Phlip
2008-10-16 03:54:37 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Better education is a far-left goal?
655321
2008-10-15 01:00:49 UTC
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Post by Wayne
A more productive exercise is to examine why Ayers DOES NOT matter.
The theistic "try to prove a negative" raises its head. Guilt by
lame-assed association is no less a fallacy than is guilt by association.
--
655321
"We are heroes in error" -- Ahmad Chalabi
MarkA
2008-10-14 17:46:25 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim
is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared
witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!
<snip>

What's that I smell.....smells like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
--
MarkA
Keeper of Things Put There Only Just The Night Before
About eight o'clock
4787 Dead
2008-10-14 18:50:47 UTC
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Post by MarkA
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim
is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared
witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come up with some
sort of trivial bullshit to distract the massed from considering their
own self interest, the GOP is finished.
Leo Marx
2008-10-14 19:22:00 UTC
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Post by 4787 Dead
Post by MarkA
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim
is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared
witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come up with some
sort of trivial bullshit to distract the massed from considering their
own self interest, the GOP is finished.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate,
tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.

Samuel Adams


"Capital must protect itself in every way... Debts must be collected and
loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a
process of law the common people have lost their homes, they will be
more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law
applied by the central power of leading financiers. People without homes
will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our
principle men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capitalism to
govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their
energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as
teachers of the common herd."

J. P. Morgan
Jack
2008-10-14 19:21:28 UTC
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Post by Leo Marx
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:46:25 -0400, MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill
Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that
disprove that claim is one of sheer panic -- and they
have a good reason to be scared witless that any
in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama's true colors -- all of
them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells
like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come up
with some sort of trivial bullshit to distract the
massed from considering their own self interest, the GOP
is finished.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in
people's minds.
Or time bombs in federal buildings.
Leo Marx
2008-10-14 21:44:29 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by Leo Marx
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:46:25 -0400, MarkA
Post by MarkA
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their candidate's
association with unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill
Ayers is a smear tactic falsely elevating a casual
relationship between the two men into one where they
worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that
disprove that claim is one of sheer panic -- and they
have a good reason to be scared witless that any
in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama's true colors -- all of
them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells
like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come up
with some sort of trivial bullshit to distract the
massed from considering their own self interest, the GOP
is finished.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in
people's minds.
Or time bombs in federal buildings.
Did time bombs in federal building prevail?

JAM
Jack
2008-10-15 11:19:03 UTC
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Post by Leo Marx
Post by Jack
Post by Leo Marx
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:46:25 -0400, MarkA
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:11:07 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their
candidate's association with unrepentant terrorist
bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men
into one where they worked together in promoting
Ayers' far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that
disprove that claim is one of sheer panic -- and they
have a good reason to be scared witless that any
in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama's true colors -- all of
them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells
like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come
up with some sort of trivial bullshit to distract the
massed from considering their own self interest, the
GOP is finished.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather
an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in
people's minds.
Or time bombs in federal buildings.
Did time bombs in federal building prevail?
JAM
I'd say no.
Leo Marx
2008-10-15 16:11:23 UTC
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Post by Jack
Post by Leo Marx
Post by Jack
Post by Leo Marx
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:46:25 -0400, MarkA
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:11:07 -0700, Kurt Nicklas
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that
the McCain campaign's questioning of their
candidate's association with unrepentant terrorist
bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men
into one where they worked together in promoting
Ayers' far-left goals.
Their reaction to the continuing revelations that
disprove that claim is one of sheer panic -- and they
have a good reason to be scared witless that any
in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama's true colors -- all of
them dark red!
<snip>
What's that I smell.....smells
like.....Hmmmm......desperation?
Why does Ayers matter? Because if the GOP can't come
up with some sort of trivial bullshit to distract the
massed from considering their own self interest, the
GOP is finished.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather
an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in
people's minds.
Or time bombs in federal buildings.
Did time bombs in federal building prevail?
JAM
I'd say no.
Me too.

JAM
Bill M
2008-10-14 17:38:11 UTC
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Lots of pure Republican propaganda trying to damage Obama and improve the
field for McCain -

Ayer's doesn't matter at all. Obama and Ayers were neither close friends or
collaborators.

"Kurt Nicklas" <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:0d77a374-81cd-40e2-8684-***@d31g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008

To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.

Their reaction to the continuing revelations that disprove that claim
is one of sheer panic -- and they have a good reason to be scared
witless that any in-depth probe of what went on between the two
comrades will reveal Obama’s true colors -- all of them dark red!

If the truth becomes better known -- and it will if the Ayers issue is
doggedly pursued -- it will be clear that Obama was not only deeply
immersed the fetid swamp of Chicago’s far-left political scene, but
was from the very beginning of his career carefully groomed by the
city’s socialist left to follow the path he’s on now in his quest for
the presidency of the United States.

Giving credence to the charge that Obama was “groomed by an older
generation of radical leftists for insertion into the American
political process, trading on good looks, brains, educational
pedigree, and the desire of the vast majority of the voting public to
right the historical racial wrongs of the [past]” as the American
Thinkers’ Thomas Lifson has written:

Obama benefited from association with the socialist New Party,
described by Lifson as “a radical left organization, established in
1992, to amalgamate far-left groups and push the United States into
socialism by forcing the Democratic Party to the left.” A March 22,
1998 article by John Nichols in These Times revealed, “After six
years, the party has built what is arguably the most sophisticated
left-leaning political operation the country has seen since the
decline of the Farmer-Labor, Progressive and Non-Partisan League
groupings of the early part of the century.”
Obama has been allied with ACORN and their Project Vote, the radical
leftist group now charged with massive vote fraud aimed at electing
Barack Obama president of the United States. Obama has long been
directly involved with ACORN. An article by Toni Foulkes of ACORN,
“Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign,” which appeared in
Social Policy magazine in 2004, Foulkes revealed ACORN noticed Obama
when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the
Developing Communities Project. Wrote Foulks: “He was a very good
organizer. When he returned from law school, we asked him to help us
with a lawsuit to challenge the state of Illinois’ refusal to abide by
the National Voting Rights Act … Obama took the case, known as ACORN
vs. Edgar … and we won. Obama then went on to run a voter registration
project with Project VOTE in 1992 that made it possible for Carol
Moseley Braun to win the Senate that year. Project VOTE delivered
50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about
5000 of them). Since then, we have invited Obama to our leadership
training sessions to run the session on power every year, and, as a
result, many of our newly developing leaders got to know him before he
ever ran for office.”
Obama and Bill Ayers were close associates for years, going back as
far as 1995 if not earlier. According to CNN: “A review of board
minutes and records by CNN show Obama crossed paths repeatedly with
Ayers at board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge Project. The
Annenberg Foundation gave the project a $50 million grant to match
local private funds to improve schools… Obama was asked to serve as
the board chairman in 1995… For seven years, Ayers and Obama -- among
many others -- worked on funding for education projects, including
some projects advocated by Ayers ... The board, for example, gave
hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bill Ayers' small schools project…
The funding, according to records… CNN reviewed, came directly from
the Annenberg foundation which Obama chaired. While working on the
Annenberg project, Obama and Ayers also served together on a second
charitable foundation, the Woods Fund.”

No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-
limits.
Kilmir
2008-10-15 11:32:17 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
<snip>
Post by Kurt Nicklas
No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-
limits.
As predicted by political commentators worldwide, McCain's only chance
now is a full fledged smear-campaign. Glad you don't disappoint in
spreading the lies.
4787 Dead
2008-10-15 13:05:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by MarkA
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
<snip>
Post by Kurt Nicklas
No wonder the Obama campaign wants the Ayers connection to be off-
limits.
As predicted by political commentators worldwide, McCain's only chance
now is a full fledged smear-campaign. Glad you don't disappoint in
spreading the lies.
It's all Knickers has to offer the world.
--

Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition,
as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
-- John McCain, in the Sept/Oct 2008 issue of Contingencies, the magazine of the
American Academy of Actuaries.
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Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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Doc Smartass
2008-10-15 17:11:18 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Whatever. By the *ahem* "logic" of the schmucks on the right who are
pushing this nonsense, ShitStain's a commie because he spent several years
in Vietnam.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

Don't Blame the telescope if you don't like the view. (Panama Floyd)
William Wingstedt
2008-10-15 18:06:41 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:11:18 GMT, Doc Smartass
Post by Doc Smartass
Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you’d think that the McCain
campaign’s questioning of their candidate’s association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers’ far-left goals.
Whatever. By the *ahem* "logic" of the schmucks on the right who are
pushing this nonsense, ShitStain's a commie because he spent several years
in Vietnam.
...and they would also abhor the revolutionary acts of the leftist
radicals who founded the USA when they resorted to terrorist acts
against the British.
God's Creator!
2008-10-15 18:15:47 UTC
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Post by Kurt Nicklas
Why Ayers Matters
By Michael Reagan
FrontPageMagazine.com | Tuesday, October 14, 2008
To listen to the Obama spin-masters you'd think that the McCain
campaign's questioning of their candidate's association with
unrepentant terrorist bomber Bill Ayers is a smear tactic falsely
elevating a casual relationship between the two men into one where
they worked together in promoting Ayers' far-left goals.
Whatever. By the *ahem* "logic" of the schmucks on the right who are
pushing this nonsense, ShitStain's a commie because he spent several years
in Vietnam.
Thus Spake: *G* *O* *D* *S* *C* *R* *E* *A* *T* *O* *R*

McCain decided he would pay heavily using _smear tactics_
so he is trying to distance himself from his demonising of Obama.

U.S. VETERANS AGAINST McCAIN.
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God's Creator!
( Well, we all make mistakes... Sometimes.) :-(
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