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#America’s first far-left radical President?
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Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 00:17:44 UTC
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October 13, 2008
America’s first far-left radical President?
Daily Mail, 13 October 2008

http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618

With all eyes glued to the collapse of global capitalism as we know
it, attention has been somewhat distracted from the race to lead what
still remains the most powerful nation on earth — the United States.
We ignore it at our peril.

From the shockingly partisan presentation by the pro-Obama media on
both sides of the Atlantic, you’d think this was a contest between
twin pillars of rectitude and inspirational high seriousness on the
Democratic side, and a joke Republican ticket consisting of an erratic
old man and a brainless, wacko, gun-toting beauty queen, who in a fit
of madness John McCain picked as his vice-presidential candidate.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, the beauty queen in question,
Governor Sarah Palin of Alaska, has struck an enormous chord with
Middle America. As a result, Barack Obama’s media supporters are
making a huge effort to destroy her.

Now the Left thinks it has shot its moose. It has been crowing that an
inquiry by Alaska’s legislature has found Palin abused her office by
firing Alaska’s Commissioner of Public Safety for refusing to fire in
turn Palin’s former brother-in-law, Trooper Michael Wooten.

This really is a case of half-baked Alaska. First, the inquiry’s
conclusions were ambiguous. It found that Palin had violated public
trust through using official action for personal interest; but it also
said the firing was a proper and lawful exercise of her authority, and
that personal interest had only been a contributory factor in the
Commissioner’s firing.

And just what was that personal interest? Palin wanted a state Trooper
fired because he had assaulted his 11-year-old stepson with a stun
gun, been caught drinking alcohol in his patrol car, and the Palins
say was threatening to kill a member of their family.

Certainly, there was a conflict of interest because Wooten was the
Governor’s sister’s ex-husband. But shouldn’t the real question be why
such a man was not fired?

What is really astounding, however, is the hue and cry over this non-
event in Alaska while a raft of disturbing evidence about Senator
Obama’s connections is being either glossed over or not reported at
all.

This may come as a shock to most people, but Obama is at the centre of
a network of radical associations which he has tried to conceal.

Take for example his relationship with William Ayers, founder of the
terrorist Weather Underground which bombed federal buildings in the
1960s and who has consistently maintained his radical views ever
since.

Obama’s own political career was actually launched in Ayers’s Chicago
house at a fundraising-event in 1995 which fired the starting gun for
his run at the Illinois Senate.

Not only that, Obama and Ayers both sat on the boards of two
organisations, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and the Woods Fund.
These organisations put into practice Ayers’s revolutionary ideology
by channelling money supposed to fund regular educational projects
into extreme radical groups instead.

Obama now says he didn’t know of Ayers’s terrorist past and never
endorsed his views, simply working with him on an educational project.
But it defies belief he didn’t know about Ayers, who was notorious in
Chicago. In 2001, indeed, Ayers told a magazine: ‘I don’t regret
setting bombs. I feel we didn’t do enough.’

The crucial point was that this educational project was itself a
vehicle for subversion; in the view of Ayers, its driving force,
education was ‘the motor-force of revolution’. Moreover, Obama wrote a
rave review about Ayers’ book on criminal justice, which compared
America to South Africa under apartheid.

Through the Woods Fund, Obama also funnelled millions of dollars to
the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN).
Described by an academic sympathiser as ‘a uniquely militant
organisation’, ACORN played a significant role in the sub-prime
scandal - which detonated America’s financial crisis — by physically
intimidating banks into lowering credit standards for poor and
minority customers.

The Obama campaign has paid an ACORN subsidiary $800,000 to register
new voters. But now, numerous states are launching investigations into
massive voter fraud being carried out by ACORN activists who are being
caught falsifying voter registration cards, registering fictitious
individuals and hounding voters to register multiple times.

But Obama’s connections with ACORN go even deeper. Even though his
campaign has denied this, for several years running he trained its
activists and in 1992 even ran one of its voter registration projects.

Such radical links fit with other highly dubious associations Obama
has made. We all know that, under pressure, he distanced himself from
his longstanding mentor Pastor Wright, who infamously coined the
phrase ‘God damn America!’

But Obama never distanced himself from the anti-white teachings of his
church, which was heavily influenced by the philosophy of the black
racist James Cone who claimed that ‘whiteness is the symbol of the
antichrist’.

And after the controversy over Wright, Obama has become close to
another preacher, Jim Wallis, who spews out the same anti-American
message — once calling the U.S. ‘the great power, the great seducer,
the great captor and destroyer of human life’.

That’s not all. ACORN is heavily involved with a Marxist group called
the Chicago New Party, whose strategy is to force the Democratic Party
to the far Left by infiltrating it and ‘ burrowing from within’. In
1996, the New Party exulted that one of its members who had just been
successful in the political primary season was — Barack Obama.

Whenever any of this surfaces, the Left tries to suppress it by
screaming ‘guilt by association’. Not so. This is guilt by
participation.

The left cries ’smear’ and ‘racism’. On the contrary — if Obama wasn’t
a black Democrat, with this history his candidacy would have been
toast before it got started.

Just consider if the boot had been on the other foot and McCain’s
political career had been launched by an abortion clinic bomber, his
mentor for 20 years had been a Ku Klux Klansman, and he had paid
nearly a million dollars to far-right militias who strong-armed voters
into fraudulent registrations.

Of course, there is no suggestion that Obama supports terrorism or
intimidation. But the question is whether through expediency or
ideological sympathy or a combination of the two, he has allowed
himself to be associated with thinking that threatens the basic values
of America and Western society.

This may sound too incredible for words. But what’s really incredible
is that, with dozens of reporters feverishly combing Alaska for any
evidence to tarnish Sarah Palin, the mainstream media has largely
refused to investigate any of this.

What’s really incredible is that a man with such a background in anti-
Western thinking can now stand on the verge of becoming the leader of
the free world.

Please don’t get me wrong. I am not a particular fan of John McCain. I
think he is indeed erratic, and has run a lousy campaign. And the
exhausted Republicans deserve to lose. But the prospect of Obama in
the White House as America’s first far-Left radical president is
deeply worrying.

It would be a crowning triumph for the anti-Western ideology which has
wrought such havoc on both sides of the Atlantic.

The reason Sarah Palin has struck such a chord is that Middle America
sees her as the first candidate in its lifetime who stands against
that destructive nihilism. That’s why she is the key target for
Western radicals who are now poised to gain the biggest prize of all.
Free Lunch
2008-10-16 00:19:22 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>October 13, 2008
>America’s first far-left radical President?
>Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>
>http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618

You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.

m
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 10:52:38 UTC
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On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >October 13, 2008
> >America’s first far-left radical President?
> >Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>
> >http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>
> You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
> right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
> how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.

But if Hussein weren't the far left radical that he is, you wouldn't
be supporting him, anonymous coward.
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 12:40:49 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>But if Hussein weren't the far left radical that he is, you wouldn't
>be supporting him, anonymous coward.
>

Well, we know you weren't the anonymous crank caller,
don't we Knicklas?

What with you being drunk and forgetting about Caller
ID?

SNICKER
Free Lunch
2008-10-17 01:33:48 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:

>On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>
>> >October 13, 2008
>> >America’s first far-left radical President?
>> >Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>>
>> >http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>>
>> You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
>> right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
>> how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.
>
>But if Hussein weren't the far left radical that he is, you wouldn't
>be supporting him, anonymous coward.

He's far left only to American fascists.
4787 Dead
2008-10-17 03:03:36 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:33:48 -0500, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
><***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
>>On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>>>
>>> >October 13, 2008
>>> >America’s first far-left radical President?
>>> >Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>>>
>>> >http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>>>
>>> You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
>>> right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
>>> how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.
>>
>>But if Hussein weren't the far left radical that he is, you wouldn't
>>be supporting him, anonymous coward.
>
>He's far left only to American fascists.

Knickers is desperate. His masters promised him women and money if
they prevaled.

He's never heard of Jack Ketch.
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Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-18 01:31:40 UTC
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On Oct 16, 11:03 pm, 4787 Dead <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:33:48 -0500, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:52:38 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
> ><***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >>On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
> >>> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >>> >October 13, 2008
> >>> >America’s first far-left radical President?
> >>> >Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>
> >>> >http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>
> >>> You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
> >>> right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
> >>> how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.
>
> >>But if Hussein weren't the far left radical that he is, you wouldn't
> >>be supporting him, anonymous coward.
>
> >He's far left only to American fascists.
>
> Knickers is desperate.  His masters promised him women and money if
> they prevaled.  

And NOW we know what is "Zepp"'s dream of success!

Sad to say what he got is a failed 'word processing' business, a fat
ex-wife, a home in a county as red as Mississippi and the inability to
vote in all these elections he claims to care so very much about.

Poor lil man!

{snickers}
Eris
2008-10-16 00:21:35 UTC
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On Oct 15, 8:19 pm, Free Lunch <***@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote in alt.atheism:
>
> >October 13, 2008
> >America’s first far-left radical President?
> >Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>
> >http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>
> You really are a fool who can be conned into believing anything your
> right-wing masters tell you. Clearly you are not smart enough to realize
> how completely dense you are showing yourself to be.
>
> m

How many more days? Hehehehehehe
DanielSan
2008-10-16 00:46:36 UTC
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> October 13, 2008
> America’s first far-left radical President?

....wasn't that George Washington?

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Kate
2008-10-16 02:06:02 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:46:36 -0700, DanielSan
<***@speakeasy.net> wrote:

>Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>> October 13, 2008
>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
>....wasn't that George Washington?

I think Adams was far more liberal than Washington. He hated
Christianity.
DanielSan
2008-10-16 02:17:53 UTC
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Kate wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:46:36 -0700, DanielSan
> <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> October 13, 2008
>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>> ....wasn't that George Washington?
>
> I think Adams was far more liberal than Washington. He hated
> Christianity.

Today, I think they would BOTH be considered to the left of Barack Obama.

Oh, and liberals do not hate Christianity. Just sayin'...

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Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 10:57:30 UTC
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On Oct 15, 8:46 pm, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> > October 13, 2008
> > America’s first far-left radical President?
>
> ....wasn't that George Washington?

Um...no.
DanielSan
2008-10-16 12:37:14 UTC
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Oct 15, 8:46 pm, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> October 13, 2008
>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>> ....wasn't that George Washington?
>
> Um...no.

Actually, yes. He'd look very far-left if he were alive today.

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Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 16:42:11 UTC
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On Oct 16, 8:37 am, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> > On Oct 15, 8:46 pm, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> >>> October 13, 2008
> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
> >> ....wasn't that George Washington?
>
> > Um...no.
>
> Actually, yes.  He'd look very far-left if he were alive today.

He'd look like a democrat only in that he also expected his blacks
to shut up and do what they're told.
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 19:21:01 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:42:11 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>He'd look like a democrat only in that he also expected his blacks
>to shut up and do what they're told.

We only expect you neo-nazis to shut up, Knickkers

You're a disgrace to the human race-----especially
dragging that russian "bride" back here to pollute us.
DanielSan
2008-10-17 02:28:40 UTC
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Kurt Nicklas wrote:
> On Oct 16, 8:37 am, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>> On Oct 15, 8:46 pm, DanielSan <***@speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>> Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>>>>> October 13, 2008
>>>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>>> ....wasn't that George Washington?
>>> Um...no.
>> Actually, yes. He'd look very far-left if he were alive today.
>
> He'd look like a democrat only in that he also expected his blacks
> to shut up and do what they're told.

So, you think black people are stupid?

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Richo
2008-10-16 04:53:37 UTC
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On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> October 13, 2008
> America’s first far-left radical President?

Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.


Mark.
4787 Dead
2008-10-16 05:25:37 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> October 13, 2008
>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.

You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
Franco was a far-left radical.
>
>
>Mark.
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Steve
2008-10-16 09:58:50 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
<***@finestplanet.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>> October 13, 2008
>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>
>>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>
>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>Franco was a far-left radical.


You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
too far to the right...


"Yes, Atkins works extremely well. I've lost 75 pounds."
-Zepp Jamieson 06 Jan 2004
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=h8vmvvsa8hl5sh9qgpt9r4gop9j3ms2gq3%404ax.com


"[...] Zepp is my middle name, and I weigh 237."
-Zepp Jamieson 2004-06-30
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=q327e0lto1kpfk6e5cst57ob60fbomu037%404ax.com

note: 237 + 75 = 312;
John Baker
2008-10-16 10:26:32 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:58:50 -0400, Steve
<***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
><***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>> October 13, 2008
>>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>>
>>>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>
>>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>>Franco was a far-left radical.
>
>
>You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>too far to the right...

And Europe's *right* wing is farther to the left than our "left-wing
radicals." It's all a matter of perspective, Sport. In the eyes of
most of the rest of the Western world, the US doesn't have a 'left'.

>
>
>"Yes, Atkins works extremely well. I've lost 75 pounds."
>-Zepp Jamieson 06 Jan 2004
>http://www.google.com/groups?selm=h8vmvvsa8hl5sh9qgpt9r4gop9j3ms2gq3%404ax.com
>
>
>"[...] Zepp is my middle name, and I weigh 237."
>-Zepp Jamieson 2004-06-30
>http://www.google.com/groups?selm=q327e0lto1kpfk6e5cst57ob60fbomu037%404ax.com
>
>note: 237 + 75 = 312;
>
Steve
2008-10-16 12:00:59 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:26:32 -0400, John Baker <***@bizniz.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:58:50 -0400, Steve
><***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>><***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>>><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>> October 13, 2008
>>>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>>>
>>>>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>>
>>>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>>>Franco was a far-left radical.
>>
>>
>>You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>>too far to the right...
>
>And Europe's *right* wing is farther to the left than our "left-wing
>radicals." It's all a matter of perspective, Sport. In the eyes of
>most of the rest of the Western world, the US doesn't have a 'left'.
>

Only from the viewpoint of you far left loons who's view of the "rest
of the Western world" comes from extreme far left media..

Pride is the recognition of the fact that you are your own
highest value and, like all of man’s values, it has to be
earned.
_Ayn Rand "ATLAS SHRUGGED"
Nosterill
2008-10-16 13:07:34 UTC
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On Oct 16, 11:26 am, John Baker <***@bizniz.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:58:50 -0400, Steve
>
>
>
> <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
> ><***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
> >><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>>> October 13, 2008
> >>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
> >>>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>
> >>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
> >>Franco was a far-left radical.
>
> >You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
> >too far to the right...
>
> And Europe's *right* wing is farther to the left than our "left-wing
> radicals." It's all a matter of perspective, Sport. In the eyes of
> most of the rest of the Western world, the US doesn't have a 'left'.
>

Ever see the original "Beyond the Fringe"? They made exactly that
point way, way back. Speaking from somewhere in the rest of the
Western world - my perception is that the USA has a two party system:
One right wing, and one extreme right wing. I have _never_ voted
Labour (UK's main left wing party) and my view isn't coloured by
strong leftwards leanings. By most standards I fit into the centre/
right over here.
John Baker
2008-10-17 14:59:57 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 06:07:34 -0700 (PDT), Nosterill
<***@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 11:26 am, John Baker <***@bizniz.net> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:58:50 -0400, Steve
>>
>>
>>
>> <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>> ><***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>> >><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >>>> October 13, 2008
>> >>>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>
>> >>>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>
>> >>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>> >>Franco was a far-left radical.
>>
>> >You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>> >too far to the right...
>>
>> And Europe's *right* wing is farther to the left than our "left-wing
>> radicals." It's all a matter of perspective, Sport. In the eyes of
>> most of the rest of the Western world, the US doesn't have a 'left'.
>>
>
>Ever see the original "Beyond the Fringe"? They made exactly that
>point way, way back. Speaking from somewhere in the rest of the
>Western world - my perception is that the USA has a two party system:
>One right wing, and one extreme right wing.

I think a major contributing factor to that unfortunate situation is
the peculiar mental affliction called religion. The more religious a
person is, the more likely he/she is to hold extreme right-wing
political views.

>I have _never_ voted
>Labour (UK's main left wing party) and my view isn't coloured by
>strong leftwards leanings. By most standards I fit into the centre/
>right over here.

I consider myself a left-leaning moderate, which, to someone like
Steve, puts me just a tad to the right of Karl Marx.
Alex W.
2008-10-17 23:42:51 UTC
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"John Baker" <***@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:***@4ax.com...


> I think a major contributing factor to that unfortunate situation is
> the peculiar mental affliction called religion. The more religious a
> person is, the more likely he/she is to hold extreme right-wing
> political views.

That's true only of the United States. In Latin and South America, by
contrast, politically activist Christianity tends to be left-wing.
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 10:57:07 UTC
Permalink
On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>
> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >>> October 13, 2008
> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>
> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>
> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
> too far to the right...

True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
count.

I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
himself once again.
Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.

Hahaha.

> "Yes, Atkins works extremely well.  I've lost 75 pounds."
> -Zepp Jamieson 06 Jan 2004http://www.google.com/groups?selm=h8vmvvsa8hl5sh9qgpt9r4gop9j3ms2gq3%...
>
> "[...] Zepp is my middle name, and I weigh 237."  
> -Zepp Jamieson 2004-06-30http://www.google.com/groups?selm=q327e0lto1kpfk6e5cst57ob60fbomu037%...
>
> note: 237 + 75 = 312;
Steve
2008-10-16 12:00:59 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>>
>> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >>> October 13, 2008
>> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>
>> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>
>> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>>
>> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>> too far to the right...
>
>True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
>count.
>
>I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
>He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
>himself once again.
>Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
>and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.
>
>Hahaha.

.... The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
is going to make life better for themselves.. It's not, of course.
Losers like Zepp will always be losers. The government can't make a
winner out of the irresponsible pig.

>> "Yes, Atkins works extremely well.  I've lost 75 pounds."
>> -Zepp Jamieson 06 Jan 2004http://www.google.com/groups?selm=h8vmvvsa8hl5sh9qgpt9r4gop9j3ms2gq3%...
>>
>> "[...] Zepp is my middle name, and I weigh 237."  
>> -Zepp Jamieson 2004-06-30http://www.google.com/groups?selm=q327e0lto1kpfk6e5cst57ob60fbomu037%...
>>
>> note: 237 + 75 = 312;
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 12:42:58 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:00:59 -0400, Steve
<***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:

>
>.... The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
>is going to make life better for themselves.. It's not, of course.
>Losers like Zepp will always be losers. The government can't make a
>winner out of the irresponsible pig.

What a fucking laugh, StevieLoon

You keep calling Zepp a "loser"---when in fact it's
common knowledge that anyone who has to point that out
so pathologically---is by definition a loser.
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 22:10:17 UTC
Permalink
On Oct 16, 8:00 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>
>
>
>
>
> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>
> >> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
> >> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >>> October 13, 2008
> >> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
> >> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>
> >> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
> >> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>
> >> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
> >> too far to the right...
>
> >True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
> >count.
>
> >I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
> >He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
> >himself once again.
> >Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
> >and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.
>
> >Hahaha.
>
> ....  The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
> is going to make life better for themselves..   It's not, of course.
> Losers like Zepp will always be losers.  The government can't make a
> winner out of the irresponsible pig.

Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.


>
> >> "Yes, Atkins works extremely well.  I've lost 75 pounds."
> >> -Zepp Jamieson 06 Jan 2004http://www.google.com/groups?selm=h8vmvvsa8hl5sh9qgpt9r4gop9j3ms2gq3%...
>
> >> "[...] Zepp is my middle name, and I weigh 237."  
> >> -Zepp Jamieson 2004-06-30http://www.google.com/groups?selm=q327e0lto1kpfk6e5cst57ob60fbomu037%...
>
> >> note: 237 + 75 = 312;- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Steve
2008-10-16 22:49:47 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 8:00 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>>
>> >> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>> >> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> >>> October 13, 2008
>> >> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>
>> >> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>
>> >> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>> >> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>>
>> >> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>> >> too far to the right...
>>
>> >True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
>> >count.
>>
>> >I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
>> >He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
>> >himself once again.
>> >Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
>> >and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.
>>
>> >Hahaha.
>>
>> ....  The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
>> is going to make life better for themselves..   It's not, of course.
>> Losers like Zepp will always be losers.  The government can't make a
>> winner out of the irresponsible pig.
>
>Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
>not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.
>

He's a loser as well... before PJ left him, they got busted on
several minor charges and couldn't even pay the fines.. went to
collection... I figure that with the local tourist and real estate
business having gone south, his secretary business is running on
fumes, if at all.... aint lookin' good for any of our usenet
lefties.. I understand that Shook is looking for work too...
Kurt Nicklas
2008-10-16 23:12:48 UTC
Permalink
On Oct 16, 6:49 pm, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>
>
>
>
>
> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >On Oct 16, 8:00 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>
> >> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>
> >> >> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
> >> >> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
> >> >> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>> October 13, 2008
> >> >> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>
> >> >> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>
> >> >> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
> >> >> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>
> >> >> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
> >> >> too far to the right...
>
> >> >True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
> >> >count.
>
> >> >I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
> >> >He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
> >> >himself once again.
> >> >Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
> >> >and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.
>
> >> >Hahaha.
>
> >> ....  The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
> >> is going to make life better for themselves..   It's not, of course.
> >> Losers like Zepp will always be losers.  The government can't make a
> >> winner out of the irresponsible pig.
>
> >Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
> >not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.
>
> He's a loser as well...  before PJ left him, they got busted on
> several minor charges and couldn't even pay the fines..    went to
> collection...    I figure that with the local tourist and real estate
> business having gone south, his secretary business is running on
> fumes, if at all....  aint lookin' good for any of our usenet
> lefties..   I understand that Shook is looking for work too

PJ's better off. No doubt about it.
Steve
2008-10-17 10:23:49 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:12:48 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 6:49 pm, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >On Oct 16, 8:00 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
>>
>> >> <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> >On Oct 16, 5:58 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
>>
>> >> >> <***@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:53:37 -0700 (PDT), Richo
>> >> >> ><***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>On Oct 16, 11:17 am, Kurt Nicklas <***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>> October 13, 2008
>> >> >> >>> America’s first far-left radical President?
>>
>> >> >> >>Nah! It will be either McCain or Obama.
>>
>> >> >> >You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>> >> >> >Franco was a far-left radical.
>>
>> >> >> You have to understand that from Zeppie's viewpoint, all the media is
>> >> >> too far to the right...
>>
>> >> >True, but since he is a non-voting non-citizen he doesn't really
>> >> >count.
>>
>> >> >I'm still waiting for his Official "Zepp"'s Electoral Vote Prediction.
>> >> >He'll probably wait until right before the vote to avoid embarrassing
>> >> >himself once again.
>> >> >Then well get another sanctimonious "essay" predicting all the bright
>> >> >and happy things to be brought by a Hussein presidency.
>>
>> >> >Hahaha.
>>
>> >> ....  The far lefties always think that any kind of Democrat victory
>> >> is going to make life better for themselves..   It's not, of course.
>> >> Losers like Zepp will always be losers.  The government can't make a
>> >> winner out of the irresponsible pig.
>>
>> >Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
>> >not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.
>>
>> He's a loser as well...  before PJ left him, they got busted on
>> several minor charges and couldn't even pay the fines..    went to
>> collection...    I figure that with the local tourist and real estate
>> business having gone south, his secretary business is running on
>> fumes, if at all....  aint lookin' good for any of our usenet
>> lefties..   I understand that Shook is looking for work too
>
>PJ's better off. No doubt about it.


I'm sure she is... It probably took a while to get her life back
together, though..

Pride is the recognition of the fact that you are your own
highest value and, like all of man’s values, it has to be
earned.
_Ayn Rand "ATLAS SHRUGGED"
N***@Click.com
2008-10-17 14:09:49 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:12:48 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>PJ's better off. No doubt about it.

Hows that social disease you acquired in Russia coming
along, Knicklas?

"CLICK" ! !
4787 Dead
2008-10-17 14:51:50 UTC
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:09:49 -0600, ***@Click.com wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:12:48 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
><***@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>PJ's better off. No doubt about it.
>
>Hows that social disease you acquired in Russia coming
>along, Knicklas?
>
>"CLICK" ! !

She learning English, and once she has enough, she'll figure out she
doesn't have to give him blowjobs to stay in the country.
--

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as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of
innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation.
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American Academy of Actuaries.
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N***@Click.com
2008-10-17 14:09:19 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:49:47 -0400, Steve
<***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:

>He's a loser as well...

You're not?

You're licking a disgraced moron who makes late-night
crank calls, you dimwitted fuck StevieLoon.
N***@Click.com
2008-10-17 14:07:32 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
>not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.

Coming from a whipped, disgraced, beaten, moron who
snapped, got drunk and began making dozens of
late-night crank, hang-up calls, that's funny

SNICKER
N***@Click.com
2008-10-17 14:08:35 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>On Oct 16, 8:00 am, Steve <***@yahooooooo.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>
>Poundcake isn't so much a loser as an *outsider. He can't vote. He's
>not a citizen and it frustrates the heck out of him.

Coming from a whipped, disgraced, beaten, moron who
snapped, got drunk and began making dozens of
late-night crank, hang-up calls, that's funny

SNICKER
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 12:41:50 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:25:37 -0700, 4787 Dead
<***@finestplanet.com> wrote:

>You have to understand that from Knicker's viewpoint, Generalissimo
>Franco was a far-left radical.


He don't understand that Knicklas has no view-----it's
generally covered with rightwing ass-cheeks.
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 12:40:04 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:17:44 -0700 (PDT), Kurt Nicklas
<***@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>From the shockingly partisan presentation by the pro-Obama media on
>both sides of the Atlantic

That's like saying it was unfair for LIncoln to be
popular for his stand on the Union

Stupid fuck
Leo Marx
2008-10-16 14:44:09 UTC
Permalink
Kurt Nicklas wrote:
>
> October 13, 2008
> America’s first far-left radical President?
> Daily Mail, 13 October 2008
>
> http://www.melaniephillips.com/articles-new/?p=618
>
> With all eyes glued to the collapse of global capitalism as we know
> it, attention has been somewhat distracted from the race to lead what
> still remains the most powerful nation on earth — the United States.
> We ignore it at our peril.
>

> The reason Sarah Palin has struck such a chord is that Middle America
> sees her as the first candidate in its lifetime who stands against
> that destructive nihilism. That’s why she is the key target for
> Western radicals who are now poised to gain the biggest prize of all.

The reason Palin has struck a chord with many Americans is because many
Americans don't have the brains god gave a piss ant. This is the result
of decaying public schools under funded by republicans at the state and
federal level.

The true nihilist are the jesus freaks waiting for their reward in
heaven. Jesus freaks, like Palin, in the U.S. are working to bring about
the Armageddon that is in their book of ignorant myths.

JAM
N***@Click.com
2008-10-16 19:19:58 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:44:09 -0400, Leo Marx
<***@nospam.net> wrote:

>The reason Palin has struck a chord with many Americans is because many
>Americans don't have the brains god gave a piss ant. This is the result
>of decaying public schools under funded by republicans at the state and
>federal level.

Well---SOME schools are failing, and SOME schools are
underfunded.

Conservatives use the issue as a wedge issue---pointing
to the worst case scenarious in generalizations---to
counter collective bargaining, pander to the religious
reich (who want public money for their religious
crap), and divide America for their political gain

Neut Gingrich spoke very Publically in his GOPAC
lectures (aired on C-SPAN) about why ( and h ow) the
federal government needed to be "starved" for
money----because he understood it was easier and
cheaper to influence and control state and local
government by politcal action

John Kasick (at the time) demanded that every state
"keep their own money" and "we'll build our own
schools, etc...."----which eventually was turned into
the mantra used repeatedly since the mid 90's......"
Who is better able to spend your money---you or the
federal government"

Reason:

Neut recognized that WY had as much "power" with 700K
people as OH did with 7 million. They wanted to retain
that money in the states---freeing them from "sharing"
with less populated (rich) states.
Leo Marx
2008-10-16 20:01:29 UTC
Permalink
***@Click.com wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:44:09 -0400, Leo Marx
> <***@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> >The reason Palin has struck a chord with many Americans is because many
> >Americans don't have the brains god gave a piss ant. This is the result
> >of decaying public schools under funded by republicans at the state and
> >federal level.
>
> Well---SOME schools are failing, and SOME schools are
> underfunded.
>
> Conservatives use the issue as a wedge issue---pointing
> to the worst case scenarious in generalizations---to
> counter collective bargaining, pander to the religious
> reich (who want public money for their religious
> crap), and divide America for their political gain
>
> Neut Gingrich spoke very Publically in his GOPAC
> lectures (aired on C-SPAN) about why ( and h ow) the
> federal government needed to be "starved" for
> money----because he understood it was easier and
> cheaper to influence and control state and local
> government by politcal action
>
> John Kasick (at the time) demanded that every state
> "keep their own money" and "we'll build our own
> schools, etc...."----which eventually was turned into
> the mantra used repeatedly since the mid 90's......"
> Who is better able to spend your money---you or the
> federal government"
>
> Reason:
>
> Neut recognized that WY had as much "power" with 700K
> people as OH did with 7 million. They wanted to retain
> that money in the states---freeing them from "sharing"
> with less populated (rich) states.

It is interesting when you look at a map of the so called red a blue
states.

Many of the red states have the worst schools. This may be because
better off communities have better school and not so well off
communities have not so good schools.

I've always believed that equal opportunity begins with a quality
education.

JAM
Tim
2008-10-16 20:00:57 UTC
Permalink
Leo Marx wrote:

> ***@Click.com wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:44:09 -0400, Leo Marx
>><***@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>The reason Palin has struck a chord with many Americans is because many
>>>Americans don't have the brains god gave a piss ant. This is the result
>>>of decaying public schools under funded by republicans at the state and
>>>federal level.
>>
>>Well---SOME schools are failing, and SOME schools are
>>underfunded.
>>
>>Conservatives use the issue as a wedge issue---pointing
>>to the worst case scenarious in generalizations---to
>>counter collective bargaining, pander to the religious
>>reich (who want public money for their religious
>>crap), and divide America for their political gain
>>
>>Neut Gingrich spoke very Publically in his GOPAC
>>lectures (aired on C-SPAN) about why ( and h ow) the
>>federal government needed to be "starved" for
>>money----because he understood it was easier and
>>cheaper to influence and control state and local
>>government by politcal action
>>
>>John Kasick (at the time) demanded that every state
>>"keep their own money" and "we'll build our own
>>schools, etc...."----which eventually was turned into
>>the mantra used repeatedly since the mid 90's......"
>>Who is better able to spend your money---you or the
>>federal government"
>>
>>Reason:
>>
>>Neut recognized that WY had as much "power" with 700K
>>people as OH did with 7 million. They wanted to retain
>>that money in the states---freeing them from "sharing"
>>with less populated (rich) states.
>
>
> It is interesting when you look at a map of the so called red a blue
> states.
>
> Many of the red states have the worst schools. This may be because
> better off communities have better school and not so well off
> communities have not so good schools.
>
> I've always believed that equal opportunity begins with a quality
> education.
>
> JAM

So why didn't you get one?
John Baker
2008-10-16 20:14:17 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:00:57 -0700, Tim <"internet nanny"@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>Leo Marx wrote:
>
>> ***@Click.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:44:09 -0400, Leo Marx
>>><***@nospam.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The reason Palin has struck a chord with many Americans is because many
>>>>Americans don't have the brains god gave a piss ant. This is the result
>>>>of decaying public schools under funded by republicans at the state and
>>>>federal level.
>>>
>>>Well---SOME schools are failing, and SOME schools are
>>>underfunded.
>>>
>>>Conservatives use the issue as a wedge issue---pointing
>>>to the worst case scenarious in generalizations---to
>>>counter collective bargaining, pander to the religious
>>>reich (who want public money for their religious
>>>crap), and divide America for their political gain
>>>
>>>Neut Gingrich spoke very Publically in his GOPAC
>>>lectures (aired on C-SPAN) about why ( and h ow) the
>>>federal government needed to be "starved" for
>>>money----because he understood it was easier and
>>>cheaper to influence and control state and local
>>>government by politcal action
>>>
>>>John Kasick (at the time) demanded that every state
>>>"keep their own money" and "we'll build our own
>>>schools, etc...."----which eventually was turned into
>>>the mantra used repeatedly since the mid 90's......"
>>>Who is better able to spend your money---you or the
>>>federal government"
>>>
>>>Reason:
>>>
>>>Neut recognized that WY had as much "power" with 700K
>>>people as OH did with 7 million. They wanted to retain
>>>that money in the states---freeing them from "sharing"
>>>with less populated (rich) states.
>>
>>
>> It is interesting when you look at a map of the so called red a blue
>> states.
>>
>> Many of the red states have the worst schools. This may be because
>> better off communities have better school and not so well off
>> communities have not so good schools.
>>
>> I've always believed that equal opportunity begins with a quality
>> education.
>>
>> JAM
>
>So why didn't you get one?


Ooh, good one, Skippy.

Moron.
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